January 3rd, 2012

  • pauamma

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The whole divergent evolution of Celtic languages is a result of people not minding their p's and q's. (Inspired by an entry in [community profile] forkedtongues.)

(Also, request to comm maintainers: could we have "goidelic languages", "brythonic languages", "celtic languages", "cornish", "breton", "cumbrian", and "gaulish" added as tags?)

Pronouncing 'Envelope'

This is just a bit of curiosity on my part spurred from being home from college. I noticed that my mother and I pronounce 'envelope' entirely differently. I pronounce it 'AHN-ve-lope' as in 'ensemble' while she pronounces it 'en-ve-lope,' which is believe is 'standard.' I think she pronounces the verb the same as the noun, but, when I say the verb, I say 'to en-VEH-lup.' Erk.

Regional note: she grew up in the American Midwest, while I grew up all over the US, with my language learning years spent in Chicago and, then, New York, so I was thinking it might just be a regional thing. Perhaps? We have significantly different accents.

I'm just curious about the regional ways to say 'envelope,' as well as which version is truly standard. And those who pronounce the 'en' as in 'ensemble,' how do you pronounce the verb? <i>Am I abnormal</i>? /angst
rama ho!

How did the ancients learn?

I've been reading the travelog of al-Beruni, and am astounded at how easily this man learned the various languages of the Persian empire, India and elsewhere. Similar stories abound of buddhist monks going from india to china and vice versa, and translating scripture from pali and sanskrit into mandarin or what have you.

My question is how? How did these travelers just pick up these immensely complex ancient languages and get them to a high enough level to be able to discuss science, religion, and mathematics on such scale? Even with all of the linguistic technology we have today, we'd consider their achievements as amazing feats.

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On a recent rerun of 2 Broke Girls, there was a bit about the way to pronounce "coupon." I'm of the kyu-pon persuasion, but I'd be interested to know about the ku-pon/kyu-pon pronunciation. Which do you say? Where are you from, and what's your generation, if you're willing to tell?

And while I'm at it. I have always said "I'm bored with this discussion," but notice that my children say they're "bored of" things. What would you say, and what's your context?