Julie (jesuslovesbono) wrote in linguaphiles,
Julie
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Danish/Dutch question

I just saw
zij/ze/zijn/zichzelf
given as gender-neutral third-person singular pronouns in Danish,
but
when I consulted google translate about this,
it did not recognise them in Danish.
It did, however, recognise them in Dutch.

So what's the truth?
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Those forms are Dutch, not Danish. Danish doesn't have z in native words, only in borrowings.

As for whether those are "gender neutral", dat is dan toch meer gevraagd dan ik weet.
thanks.
Niets te danken!

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thanks.
They're Dutch. Not all of them are all that gender neutral, though.

Hoping I get the terminology right:

- "Zij"/"ze" (She) is third a person singular pronoun, but it's not gender neutral if used that way. It's the female third person singular pronoun.
- "Zij"/"ze" (They or Them) can also be the third person plural. <- This is probably where the confusion comes from, as in English, singular "they" is often used as a gender neutral third person pronoun.
-"Zijn" (His/its) is the possessive form of the *male* (and neuter) third person singular pronoun. Female would be "Haar" (Her/Hers)
- "Zichzelf" (Itself) is the neuter reflexive pronoun, but *this* is in fact also often used with male or female antecedents, as if it were gender neutral.
thanks.
Certainly doesn't look like Danish to ,me. That is most definitely Dutch.