coquinaria (coquinaria) wrote in linguaphiles,

French question: 'soupe jacobine'

Hello,
Some time ago I published a medieval recipe for Soupe Jacobine. Now I am in the process of rewriting it, and in my research on why this soupe would be called Jacobine, I came across 'soupe jacobine'  in another context. This is the first paragraph I found:

Et que l'on arrête de nous parler d'ouverture nécessaire du fait de la construction européenne pour nous vendre un grand ouest. Cela, c'est encore de la «soupe jacobine» destinée à continuer à culpabiliser les Bretons. Est-ce que Malte, le Luxembourg, l'Irlande, la Slovénie, l'Estonie, le Pays de Galles, etc, sont trop petits pour l'Europe??? (Source)

And here is another one:

Le catalan français qui a toujours préféré la bonne soupe jacobine des emplois publics et des prébendes, qui a oublié ses valeurs, sa culture et sa langue est volontiers jaloux de ceux qui moins minables qu'eux réussissent : les cousins du sud. Ne vous en déplaise, Jordi Pujol est le père de la renaissance de la Catalogne après l'hiver franquiste ! Tout le reste n'est que mesquineries ... (Source)

I can not find it in any dictionary (Petit Robert, and here and here). What is the meaning of this phrase, and how old is it? The oldest recipes for the actual soupe jacobine are from the 14th/15th century, and it was still on the menu in centuries to come.
Could the modern phrase mean something like a mishmash? That could make sense, as the Jacobins were a mendicant order, and maybe prepared dishes from whatever they had received as gift, resulting in dishes with a wide variety of ingredients. As far as I know, nobody has ever tried to explain the reason why a soupe should be called 'jacobine', maybe this is it. But I have no printed source to confirm this.

Edit: Thank you for thinking along with me!
The suggestion that the 'soupe jacobine' refers to the revolutionary jacobins makes sense, as long as no use of the expression in a non-culinary sense is found prior to 1789. A search on Google Books only delivered culinary references.
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