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sonhadora_18 [userpic]

Hi all,

I am in Hungary at the moment and its been very helpful with improving my sounds of the language. However, the grammar still mystifies me. I have a phrasebook and vocabulary book but I feel that the grammar is still very complex and impenetrable, perhaps this is more of my mental block and if I could learn some of the basics with the grammar, I might feel less confused.

For example, what is the pattern for possession and how to form these suffixes - if I say my family vs. your family, i note that it is
 családom / családod. Is there a consistent rule for this?

Also, is there an informal vs. formal form for "you" as many languages have?

To conjugate a verb in the present tense, I am firstly not sure if the verbs follow a pattern based on regular or irregular, and secondly i have heard that verbs can be conjugated according to an indefinite or definite pattern. so would this mean each verb in Hungarian would have double the conjugations for every tense, every person? Then it is no wonder this language has a reputation for being so difficult!

Thank you all =)

mavisol [userpic]

"In the village the same situation was repeated many times: we would have a lunch with one or another local couple in the pub, and after the lunch they would maneuver us into invitating them to our cottage, where they would be treated with our sturgeon and red wine."

Barszczow A. N. [userpic]

What is the difference between angoisse primale and angoisse primaire, if any? I am looking for a word to describe this kind of fear that is common for most of the people, like fear of darkness, of the unknown, of strangers, of a forest, of being alone, etc. that supposedly originated when the human race was very young.

And what are the equivalents of the French terms peur (fear?) and angoisse (anguish? dread?) in English?

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ringlat [userpic]

Hi everyone, I've made a new comm specifically for posting fanfiction and normal fiction that you've written in any language that's not your native one: langfic

Really any language, as in even a language you've made up yourself, or a language used only in some novel you read. You can ask for corrections but you don't have to. Likewise, you can post a translation but you don't have to. You can be any skill level (though ideally not fluent) and the fics can be any length — if you don't know how to use adjectives or adverbs then simply don't use them, it's that kind of place. If you're too low-level to be able to "really" write anything, then try to piece together some kind of story using stolen sentences that you edit a bit — "she nodded her head, he said" turns into "he nodded his head, he whispered" etc.

I think writing is good practise but posting fanfic on real sites (such as FFN and AO3) can quickly breed mean comments so I thought a community where we all share the "I'm still learning" feeling was better. There's probably a lot of people here who write fiction as practise already so I thought I would come advertise! If the mods could add this to the list of comms related to linguaphiles I'd be appreciative.

Kake [userpic]

Could someone give me a translation of the Turkish phrase “Croydon-Sosyal Yardimlasma Ve Dayanisma Dernegi”, please? It’s a sign above a social club/community centre in Croydon, as seen here. Google Translate has “Croydon-Social Charity And Solidarity Association” which is roughly appropriate but sounds a bit odd to me. Thank you!

Макс пишет, Оксана комментирует [userpic]

Is there an expression "bears a promise"?
Like in "the new technology bears a promise".
I see there are typical expressions "holds a promise", "brings a promise" "shows a promise", but "bears"?
I couldn't find any good online dictionary to look it up. I used a google search "technology * a promise", with the quotes and the star - that helped a bit.
I don't know why I became obsessed with this expression, I guess, there is a positive meaning which I am trying to convey - elegantly in academic style - that a new technology is giving a hope, and the above expressions don't seem adequate.

onyagudin [userpic]

What a nice community!
Hello.

I'd be very grateful, if native speakers could say something about this:
(I will be grateful to anyone, but... please, tell, if you are a native speaker or not)

... Tomorrow the world will be better, than it was.
Awake and sing! Awake and sing!
Try to forget weary sighs -
Let people see a glow in your wide-open eyes!
Who knows a path to success?
But fortune favours, we guess,
Those who are brave enough to do a funny thing.
Sing all day long, sing in your dreams, awake and sing!

"to forget about sighs"?..

And... you may enjoy this marvelous song, of course!
They sing these words all together. (VIDEO)

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But fickle fortune (should ? may) bless
Be happy. Life is so nice.
Don't let a glow leave (ever ? now) your wide-open eyes!

Don't let a glow escape from your wide-open eyes?
Ease up! Though fortune is chequered,
It often greets with respect
Those, who are funny, - and who have no evil grin.
Sing all the day, sing in your dream, wake up and sing!

Cheer up! A (changeful ? flighty ? wavy) success
Should (see ? like) and be sure to bless

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mks135 [userpic]

Hello, everyone!

Perhaps I've chosen a wrong community for that post, but this question is related to the cultural aspects of the English-speaking countries.
I would like to ask some questions about superstitions in English-speaking countries.
If you are from the UK, the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc, give me some information about the superstitions in your countries:
1) What are the most remarkable superstitions in your country?
2) How do people find them? How seriously do they follow them?
3) What do you think about them? Do you believe in them? Do you follow them?
Thank you!

For example:
I am from Russia.
1) Many people think it's a bad luck to go along the road crossed by a black cat or to look at the broken mirror, or clean the table with a hand without a duster. Some people think that if a fork or a knife falls, someone will come to see you this day. Some people take a seat at home for a while before going to a long trip. If you kill a spider your following 7 years will be full of bad luck.
2) I think most of people in our country treat all that seriously and follow them.
3) I don't follow them, but I used to believe in all that in my childhood.

If there's a more convenient community for this post, please, tell me.

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Marcus L. Rowland [userpic]

This is possibly a common idea, but in case it isn't I thought I'd pass it on. I hope someone will find it useful.

I recently managed to spill coffee into the keyboard of my laptop. Because replacing it was horribly expensive I've started using a cheap silicone keyboard skin, a protective cover that fits over the keys. It gives the keys a slightly dead feel, but I can still type well on it. It can be put on or peeled off in seconds.

The one I got was clear, but you can also buy them coloured and pre-printed for various keyboard layouts including American and European layouts, Russian, Hebrew, Japanese, Taiwanese Chinese, etc. They're very light and thin, and it would be easy for a translator or other linguist to carry several around in plastic wallets in a laptop case, and put on whichever one is needed. It's a lot easier than using individual labels for each key, especially if you are working with several alphabets, and a lot lighter than carrying a plug-in keyboard.

As an example of what is available, here are some I found for various Apple laptops in the UK. Availability in other countries may be very different, of course.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271265787839 - Clear, UK and US layouts in various colours - £2.69 (UK supplier)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/381407621720 - Russian/UK & EU - £0.99 (ships from Hong Kong)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221889442597 - Japanese - £1.29 (ships from Hong Kong)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181796801300 - Taiwanese - £4.99 (Ships from China)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181965879813 - Arabic / Russian / French / Portuguese / Spanish / Hebrew / Italian / English versions - £5.99 (Ships from China)

I don't think the range is so extensive for other laptops - Apple have the advantage of keeping the same standardised layout on a lot of laptops over a decade or more.

I think you could also start with one of these skins and add labels to it for other languages - again, a lot less messy than labelling the keys directly - but I don't know how well labels will stick to them.

Barszczow A. N. [userpic]

Still struggling.

I am trying to write a sentence that means more or less "The evening was humid, which made him shiver." 'Him' being the protagonist.

I think this one is the most accurate/correct grammatically:

1. La soireé était humide, ce que l’a fait frissonner.

But I also thought about these:

2. La soireé était humide, que l’a fait frissonner. [but I think that the correct phrase would go something like this: La soiree humide, que l’a fait frissonner, did sth else to someone else. Different meaning, but maybe grammatically correct, it seems that you have to have a personal pronoun and a verb after 'que']

and

3. La soireé était humide, qui l’a fait frissonner. [I have a feeling that this one is incorrect. And I can't fathom the difference between "La soiree humide, que l’a fait frissonner, did sth else to someone else." and "La soiree humide, qui l’a fait frissonner, did sth else to someone else."

Also, the alternative came to my mind:

4. L'humidité de la soirée l’a fait frissonner. [Does 'L'humidité de la soirée' sound contrived?]

I'd appreciate your comments.

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Макс пишет, Оксана комментирует [userpic]

My new friend's name is Semyon. He lives in Ukraine. He is about to obtain an international passport and eventually move abroad. It is likely that Ukrainian officials will spell his name "Semen". What do you think: how bad would this be for his life say in US? Requesting a different spelling in Ukraine would be a hassle. Would it be alright to have the name in US spelled "Semen" or is it better to go into extra trouble and have it spelled "Semyon"?

Andrew [userpic]

I'm preparing for certification as a medical interpreter in my state and am hunting down useful materials. Most books out there on medical Spanish seem to be aimed at health care professionals who do not speak Spanish already.

Any thoughts on how best to prepare or material recommendations? I've pulled the limited study material off my state's website, but am looking for juicier material to get myself ready. Any advice appreciated.

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lamperouge_0 [userpic]

What does 「突けこむ」mean? I tried looking it up in the dictionary but I couldn't find anything. Is it different than 「付け込む」?

This is what the person says: いやーお前、ほんといいやつだなーって。そういうとこにどんどん突けこんじゃうよ、俺。

iddewes [userpic]

Hello all! I have a question about the word 'trolling'!
I listen to BBC Radio 4 in the mornings and I've noticed a few times that RP speakers on that station seem to pronounce the word with the o pronounced like in 'trolley'. To me that sounds like an affectation since the word comes from 'troll' and I would personally find it more natural to pronounce it to rhyme with 'rolling'. But a friend of mine who is not particularly posh seemed surprised that I thought that pronunciation was affected! I have kind of a mixed Canadian and British accent myself. Just wondering how the native English speakers here pronounce that word, and if I perhaps have a North American pronunciation... (sorry, I studied some linguistics but 20 odd years ago so I can't remember the IPA for the different English 'o's).

Barszczow A. N. [userpic]

I have a question concerning the relative pronouns in French, more specifically the difference between "auquel" and "à quoi". They both can refer to things (the second one only to things), the second one with things more abstract or wider categories, but I can't quite put my finger on it.

Is there some clear rule what to apply when? Are they interchangeable?

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sonhadora_18 [userpic]

I was recently watching the film 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding' again, and was curious to know a few things about modern Greek - is the language spoken nowadays in Greece, and/or any other countries, very different from ancient Greek?

What are the main grammatical aspects if any, that are different? I had heard Greek was extremely difficult, but then I read that there are four cases, and three genders - this is similar to German, so I am thinking, is there another aspect that makes it particularly challenging? I think I know nearly all the letters of the alphabet - that's not too hard, especially if one has seen these letters in past courses for calculus or physics!

Lastly, I heard about the Greek language exhibiting diglossia - please refresh my memory; this is when the spoken language and the written language are very different? In other words, is there a colloquial spoken Greek that is very different from what you read in books and the newspaper?

sonhadora_18 [userpic]

I often hear this idiom and to be honest, I am not sure how to interpret it! At first thought, I wonder if it relates to the story of the Iliad and the Trojan War - like how the Greeks disguised themselves in the form of that 'gift horse' and defeated the Trojans?

So does it mean something along the lines of...don't accept all gifts you receive, like kind of a 'be careful' warning?

Thank you all =) 

sonhadora_18 [userpic]

I am just curious to know a little more, as I have not studied any Slavic language before. I'd like to know specifically about Polish - I was listening to this interview with the Vampire Diaries actor ( admittedly, yes, I do find the show quite interesting! )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHibyoYBRKQ&feature=youtu.be

I'd love to learn even a few basic phrases of this language! Is it grammatically as intricate as say, a Finno-Ugric language or another agglutinative language such as Finnish or Hungarian? Are Polish, Russian and Czech considered more or less similar in terms of grammar and maybe some vocabulary too? I assume these are the most spoken Slavic languages.

Thank you all =)

whswhs [userpic]

My girlfriend was looking at a Lovecraftian Website, and asked me about their motto, Ludo fore putavimus. They claim that it means "We thought it would be fun."

I can't construe the Latin as meaning that, but my knowledge of Latin is limited. What would be a literal translation, and could it mean what they say it does?

If not, what Latin phrase would better convey the English?

Gratias tibi ago!

Barszczow A. N. [userpic]

Does anyone know what it means? I found these explanations, which are of no help, since I don't know what "côgne" is. I suspect it might be something like 'hunch'.


côgne (un). Cou de travers ; on dit : cet homme est côgne ; c'est-à-dire, il a le cou de travers,
Côgner, verb., pour avoir le cou de travers ; on dit : tiens donc ta tête droite , tu côgnes, ne donc côgne pas.



Context: Robert le diable. Il [the king] fit apporter foin, fourrage et paille, fit installer un lit sous la voût, près des chiens, au malheureux qui tenait son cou de travers.

ETA: okay, I think I should look at it as "il tenait son cou" = "he held his neck" + "de travers" = "awry, crookedly" as Wiktionary says. *sighs*

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anyolite [userpic]

If someone could translate these two for me, I would be very grateful.  Thank you!

Sylvia [userpic]

Dear Linguaphiles,

could some kind Polish speaker please help me translate this note to my neighbor? He let me use his phone even though he had no idea what I was trying to tell him, and I want to explain and thank him properly.

Thank you very much for your help!


Dear neighbor,

thank you for letting me use your phone! I locked myself out of my apartment and had to call the locksmith to open my door.

I apologize for the disturbance, and thank you again!

rheasilvia
(1st floor)

Barszczow A. N. [userpic]

I have a question concerning this line: Les photos, les chansons et les orchestrations
Ont eus raison de mes économies.
Is this "s" at the end of the past participle of avoir necessary?

This is where I found it:

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lamperouge_0 [userpic]

I am wondering what 枯れている means in the context of this sentence:「二十歳の俺はこんな枯れてるはずじゃなかったもん」

I tried looking the word up in the dictionary but am still having trouble understanding. Could someone please explain? Thank you.

5x6 [userpic]

I have never heard this idiom. Nobody around me has ever heard it. Yet all dictionaries list it (for example, http://www.thefreedictionary.com/grass+widow).

So I wonder - is it British? Obsolete? Or I just happened to live inside a perverted bubble where nobody knows a common expression? Dictionaries do not list it as either regional or archaic...

mavisol [userpic]

The context: previously these areas were the purview / competence of agency Y, and now, under this new law, these areas are the purview / competence of agency X.

So, is it OK to say (see the subject line)?

Many thanks in advance!

Г-н Фаршеклоакин [userpic]

He posted a vintage photo of he and the former First Lady on his official Instagram account.

That's definitely deliberate and cannot be explained away as a typo, a hyper-correction, or a distance effect, as in "for you and I".

Dear forumites!
Please help me with the correct translation of the subject of bachelor`s degree from Russian into English language.

RUS: "Швейцария глазами русских участников Швейцарского похода 1799 года"
ENG: "Switzerland through the eyes of russians soldiers of the Swiss campaign of 1799" - is it correct?

Barszczow A. N. [userpic]

Could you please tell me what l' mean in this sentence?

Mais l'on mesurerait mal la << matérialité >> de certaines images de l'eau, la << densité >> de certains fantômes, si l'on avait pas d'abord étudié les formes irisées, tout en surface.

from L'eau et les rêves by Gaston Bachelard

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sonhadora_18 [userpic]

Hello all,

I would like to make sure I am not confusing the meaning in German with the meaning in English, regarding the past tense.

In class this week we studied this tense: To say ' I spoke '

Ich habe gesphrochen.

So it's a compound form, because you use the present form of haben or sein, and then the past participle.

My question is, is this form of the past tense more commonly used in colloquial everyday conversation? In English, doesn't this mean 'I have spoken?' But in German the meaning seems to be the English equivalent of 'I spoke' ( End of story, it's a finished event. )

Is there another past tense in German, and if so, is this one less for speaking and reserved more for literary purposes?

Danke schon!

Whodunnit? [userpic]

A russian question: I was reading the book A Mountain of Crumbs, about growing up in St Petersburg in the 60s and 70s. As a teenager in the 70s the author and her friends would say "he/she's not our blood group" to mean they didn't have much in common with that person. Is this something people still say? Is it a common phrase, or really dated 70s slang or something really specific to the author and her friends? Googling "группа крови" either gives me scientific info, or the Kino song.

at least 10% Discocunt [userpic]

This is marvellous: apparently the graffiti artists hired to decorate the "Syrian refugee camp" set for Homeland took the opportunity to write their opinions of Homeland on the walls:

(SPOILER: they don't like it.)

http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/oct/15/homeland-is-racist-artists-subversive-graffiti-tv-show?CMP=fb_gu

I am not sure whether the photos in the article are just screenshots from the existing series, or whether they show some of the subversive graffiti. Can any Arabic readers check?

sonhadora_18 [userpic]

In class, our teacher was telling us that in German, the simple present tense is used for the present progressive as well - in other words, there isn't a separate verb tense for 'v-ing' like I read vs. I am reading.

I assume then, that ' Ich lese das Buch ' is, I read the book, AND I am reading the book.

How would I say that I like or I want to improve my _____, and fill in the blank with a gerund?

For example, I want to practice my German speaking ( or listening skills, something along these lines. )

Could I say, 'Ich mochte mein Deutsch sprechen praktizieren' ?

Danke schon! 

Tenshinrtaiga [userpic]

I'm having some issues with tenses. I am trying to write in past tense but I think I'm mixing it with present tense. Please see below and let me know what you think, please.

"He didn’t speak a word the entire climb, unnerving her. Still, since he never told her to stop, she continued moving upward and soon they were on the roof. Again, he gripped her wrist, this time leading her over to the front of the building, looking over the edge to the street below."

Unnerving, moving, leading and looking are all present tense, but the rest of the sentence is past tense...

Thanks in advance!

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Personal names are an important part of language, yet names are often considered outside the sphere of language learning, instead belonging to the sphere of culture. In my own language learning experience, usually the teaching of names are limited to a few names that are used in textbooks, and maybe the names of a few important public figures that show up during the course.

What are your experiences with language learning and names? Do you have any resources for learning more about names to share with us?

I'll start with Swedish names, since I'm from Sweden. :)

The site "Svenska namn" is a fun site with lists of the most common names in Sweden. It's written for parents, but don't let that stop you.
http://svenskanamn.alltforforaldrar.se/

As you can see, the most common last names all end in -son. That's because of historical reasons, way back the men were called father's name + son and women were called father's name + dotter, later those names with -son turned into hereditary last names (is that the right expression for that?).

I'll also add a good resource for German last names, that I found recently:
http://www.onomastik.com/haeufige_familiennamen1.php
It's about German last names, and especially the names that denotes jobs, such as Müller (miller in English I guess?).

Lastly, it's very interesting to look through the tag "names" here on the Linguaphiles community. You can waste a lot of time doing that, as I just did. ;)

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sonhadora_18 [userpic]

Our teacher gave us a list of verbs and I am not understanding this concept entirely but I Think these are verbs that always have to take either an accusative or dative noun?

For example, the verb antworten. And the sentence example she gave us was ' Warum antwortest du mir nicht? '

Does it mean that 'antworten' should always have a dative noun to go along with it?

Some of these other verbs on this long list, include: einfallen, danken, passen, glauben, gefallen, schreiben...

Mein Vater kauft ein Motorrad.

Der Kuchen ist dir sehr gut gelungen.

So my question is, should I be memorizing what verbs always take a nominative, accusative, or dative noun?

Thank you all so much! Whew, feeling like the world of German is just getting deeper and more complex, and I'm hoping at some point to have that enlightened moment where it all makes sense! Ich bin sehr dankbar.

Barszczow A. N. [userpic]

Since I can't find it in any Old French dictionary that is available to me, and it's driving me nuts, I decided to post here in hopes that someone would know the meaning of the word "moysne"/"moisne" and the word that looks like "aulP" (the second in the first row, then again in the second row, and more), but maybe I'm not able to decipher it.

The text is behind the lj-cut, and I don't know what it is exactly, save the fact that it seems to talk about admonishing someone for negligence of the midnight prayers.

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asher63 [userpic]

Can anyone explain what gesture is meant by this phrase (American, poss. African-American, English) and what it connotes? Toni Morrison uses it all the time and it's driving me nuts. Example: "Frieda sucked her teeth and made a phttt sound with her lips."

I get the impression that it connotes disapproval or maybe deliberation, but I'm not sure. Is anybody familiar with this expression?

sonhadora_18 [userpic]

I'm wondering if anyone can suggest good online exercises for testing myself and practicing German adjectives in these three cases ( we have not yet learnt the genitive. )

I have no problem identifying whether a noun is in the accusative or nominative. The tricky part is declining the indefinite or definite articles such as ein / einer / eine and possessive particles, and THEN the describing word such as teur / billig / gut.

So for example, to think and be able to say quickly, ' My mom gives me the green apple and the red strawberries '

Or to say ' I gave a small cat some food yesterday ' Remembering how to correctly form the adjectives is challenging!

Sometimes, I don't know what I got myself into with German! But with time and practice I hope to improve, and I hope it will become easier. 

sonhadora_18 [userpic]

Hi all,
Not sure if anyone else feels this way, but sometimes I worry I won't ever get to where I'd like with my language studies. There are videos online, of many polyglots who know 30 or even 40 languages! Perhaps they really are endowed with a greater learning capacity for language. I do wonder about the quality of these polyglots' languages compared to the quantity... and how they can keep so many languages straight!  It makes me feel daunted and a bit deflated. I guess I'm wondering as a result, how can I ever manage progress in even a few languages I'm studying?

I aim for quality and depth, profoundity so I can feel more confidence in my language abilities. However,
Do you think it's possible to maintain fluency in 30 languages? I even marvel at 20! 

theFish [userpic]

I would like a word-for-word translation of this line from a Cowboy Bebop song:

"Hitotsu no me de asu o mite"

Bonus question for Japanese speakers:  If you heard just 'suomite' used as a neologism, or a name, what would it evoke for you?

sonhadora_18 [userpic]

I find that the paradox of choice makes it somewhat difficult for establishing a language routine for studies!

There are so many websites, videos, and resources for how to study and learn a language, that I feel I can easily fritter away time just perusing these various links online.

It would be helpful to get an idea of a language routine, anything you currently have in place or follow, just to gauge what an effective schedule would be like! And of course, I know everyone is different and prefers different study tools and methods. It would be helpful to receive some insight anyway! I feel like lately I've been having a mental block with my studies.

I'm taking just two classes right now, one in German and one in Turkish. I'm trying to keep up with Korean but it's less of a priority right now, I try to do some studies on my own at least a few times a week. The classes do have textbooks, but I find that along with all the grammar we learn ( and with these languages, is there EVER a plethora of grammar! ) I do wish to speak and be more comfortable with conversation.

Marcus L. Rowland [userpic]

I'm an occasional contributor to fanlore.org, a wiki about fandom - fan fiction, fan art, conventions, etc. based on books, films, TV etc. At the moment the overwhelming majority of posts are about English-language fandom and activities, but one of its aims is to broaden the coverage and cover source material and activities in other countries.

As part of this I recently wrote a small entry about the Italian comic "Diabolik" and the film "Danger: Diabolik" which derives from it.

http://fanlore.org/wiki/Diabolik

What I wasn't able to do was find out if there is an active fandom for the comic; unfortunately in English-language searches it's drowned out by an unrelated anime series, Diabolik Lovers. About all I've learned is that there are Diabolik panels at Italian comics conventions.

If anyone here can give any more information about this comic's Italian fandom and activities I'd be very grateful. And if anyone knows anything about other non-English fandoms it would be great if you could think about posting an article to Fanlore.org

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the baby of the family [userpic]

I speak some Korean, but I wanted to double-check with natives and/or people who speak it far better than I do.

My main character this year for NaNoWriMo is going to be a prophet of sorts. Think Cassandra from the Trojan War in that he's also going to be widely disbelieved. However, the term he and others with similar abilities are going to use to describe themselves needs to be a Korean word, because their abilities first appeared in people living on what is now Jeju Island, and thus the headquarters of this Order will be in Korea. I was going to go with 예언자, as in, the Order of 예언자들. However, is that correct? Or would something like 신탁 be better? I'd even thought of something like 마녀 or 마술사, but those I think mean more like "witch" than "seer."

If anyone can advise, I'd really appreciate it. My Korean is at maybe a four-year old's level, so those who know better are obviously the ones to ask. 감사합니다! (Also, of course, if the Hangul doesn't show up, I will transliterate.)

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sonhadora_18 [userpic]

Hi all,

Just wondering if there is an active community for posting more specific questions related to the grammar and learning of Korean? I of course feel that the advice here is fantastic! But instead of always posting here and taking up space =) I am thinking it may be more beneficial to seek advice from a Korean language community, specifically.

Also, just curious to know if anyone else has limited or refined / edited their language bucket list, with time and different experiences.

For example there were languages I thought I wanted to learn but now I realize it was more a feeling of obligation or that I 'had' to, or because so and so was learning or studying, I had to, as well.

A few days ago I was thinking, what do I really want to achieve with my language goals? And so I got rid of some, and that made me feel so much better! I of course love all languages but practically speaking, there is simply not enough time to learn and devote so much to them all. And I aim for quality, I want to go beyond 'basic' phrases and feel I am making substantial progress in what I study...anyway, just wondering if anyone else can relate to this. =)

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In English (at least in American English) the word scientist has a more narrow meaning than scholar. A scientist can study physics or geology, possibly archaeology, but not history or religion. These areas are called "humanities" as opposed to "sciences", and a person researching, for instance, historical background of the Bible may be a Biblical scholar, but not a Biblical scientist.

This is not the case in other languages. Wissenschaft in German applies to any activity involving research and creating new knowledge. The Max Planck Society for Advancement of Sciences (Wissentschaften) runs, among other, an institute for art history etc.

Similarly in Russian, Наука includes history, philosophy, art studies etc. Ученый (scientist) may study the Bible, or Shakespeare.

In some sense American division is rather arbitrary - why political science is a science, and history is not, even though history can be, at least potentially, much more objective than political science?

So my question is, what is the situation in other languages (and maybe in other English dialects, although I doubt there will be a lot of difference in this aspect)?

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I am fascinated by this language and would like to learn more! I heard some clips and songs recently and really love how it sounds. It's so unique, and does not sound like Hindi or other north Indian languages - however, it is still considered an official language of India, I think.

I'm wondering a few things:

- I read that Manipuri is considered a 'Sino-Tibetan' language, yet it is an official language of India. How and why is that, and is it spoken outside of India?

- I have also heard there are two dialects or forms, the Manipuri language and Bishnu Priya language - are they still considered one and the same? I didn't understand this...

- Is Manipuri a language used interchangeably with Bengali, since they use the same script? The Manipuri that I've heard, however, does not sound like Bengali to me.

Thanks so much everyone =)

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I'm looking for comparisons of different Chinese pronunciations and vocabulary that go beyond Mandarin and Cantonese. Hoping people here might have some suggestions. I'm especially interested in Taiwanese Hokkien and Hakka. Thanks for any recommendations.

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Last Sunday I heard Olga Neuwirth's new piece "masaot/Clocks without Hands" (which I loved) on the radio. The radio speaker said that "masaot" means "voyages, tales", and apparently she's right. I've only got a dictionary for Biblical Hebrew and can't find it there, so I suppose it's a newer word. But where does it come from? Does anybody know the etymology of that word?

I ran across this video of Ricky Martin being interviewed in Portuguese:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt8T_iQ-mOY

I'm a Spanish speaker and have had a lot of interaction with Portuguese speakers, but really don't know much about the language. For the most part, in my experience, if I speak reasonably paced Spanish to Portuguese speakers, they understand me well. However, native Spanish speakers have expressed to me that it is not the same vice versa, and they have considerable trouble understanding all but the slowest, simplest Portuguese.

So I guess I have a couple questions about this video in particular and about the Spanish–Portuguese relationship in general. First of all, is Ricky Martin speaking real Portuguese, or simply "lusophoning" his Spanish, if that's even a thing? I wonder because I understand about 90% of what he says in the video, and have minimal experience with Portuguese.

Secondly, can native Spanish and Portuguese speakers please comment on their ability to understand the other language? Is it a thing for linguistically inclined Hispanophones or Lusophones to simply alter patterns in their own language to make themselves more readily understood to the other group?

Thanks for sharing!

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